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Telecon 20180404
Attending: Kris,Brian, Toki, Tom, Jeff, Shaul, Karl, Qi
Notes by : Qi
Agenda
- SPIE Papers
- Sutin Abstract (.docx)
- Young Abstract (.doc)
- TeamX
- Final Focal Plane configuration (.pptx)
- Latest noise budget V3.2 (.xlsx)
- Setting Margins
- PICO Noise Assumptions (.pptx)
Notes
- SPIE
- in June, mostly technical
- Apr 9, deadline for finalizing the author list and material
- TeamX meeting
- 2nd Instrument meeting; Mission meeting
- Overall cost is the the most important product
- no significant revelation
- Focal plane
- converged to one configuration; most compact, proper strehl ratio for high frequency
- the other two, we have to change the optical design, to accommodate with high frequency
- this focal plane has largest number of detectors; the difference compared to other two is very small though.
- Noise budget
- V3.2: very little change from V3.1; noise 0.63 uK arcmin before, now 0.61 uK arcmin
- compare values with CORE and LiteBird calculation, single detector
- we are using two independent codes to calculate. Karl at UMN; Roger at JPL. Agree within 5%, slightly difference. Reasonable confidence.
- various assumptions
- to what extend our assumptions agree with other experiments
- in some bands, noise lower than LIteBird, some bands higher than LiteBird.
- everything seems consistent, no major change
- Psat, safety factor of 2, we haven chosen a factor of 2, it’s used by JPL folks, also by SPIDER AND KECK. We thought it’s reasonable.
- Quantitative calculations will be done by next week: what T of elements (mirros) could bring us to a factor of 2
- Efficiency
- It varies between the bands
- Detector: lenselet + antenna + bolo, 70%
- Edge Taper: center 10 db, lower band and higher band have different values; low, center, high: 70%, 90%, 99%.
- End to end, 50-70%
- Optical efficiency can mess up the estimate on safety factor
- Emissivity
- We are using measured emissivity from Planck. We already know, for highest bands, we may need to change to be more conservative
- Margins
- Space Mission, “current best estimate”, e.g. 100% yield; we are not likely to do better than 0.61 uK arkmin
- What margin is the judge, successful or not.
- Two paths:
- 1. start with assumptions
- each one assumption
- “worst case”
- 2. We can propagate backs from sigma_r 2*10^-5.
- 3. maybe a 3rd one, some factors on NET.
- Kris: instrument is one thing, how to get data to science is another
- Raphael used mapping speed, assuming delensing on our own resolution. 1*10^-4 is the limit that Shaul said in AAS, which has margins from calculated value 2*10^-5.
- It's not a trivial calculation
- LiteBird
- does have margins
- “large sections”, different categories, based on what's typically achieved in lab and by ground experiments
- quote r with margin in it
- nominal performance and worst performance. Give both to science team. Worst case did not give too much science. Lately, increase number of detectors to improve “worst case”
- Shaul is going to check with Planck team
- Workshop
- suggestions:
- Kris: 1) without modulator 2) arguments on margins
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